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								<div class="inner" id="msg_41088">Have a random numbers generator select one nation in the TRW world who can, if they explore for oil in that turn, find a fantastic amount.<br />That fantastic amount is 10X the regular discovery range (so 10,000 to 50,000, if a ME nation is lucky enough to make the find).<br />The nation is reselected at each turn change, so it won't get stuck on an inactive nation.<br />Perhaps have a news event (similar to usage of nuclear bombs) about its discovery.<br />A version for regular Bloc would have a 1:100 chance per nation, with a multitude of nations selected... but no news event (or only one for their region).</div>
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I believe the 81% is from OPEC's own '2014 Global Oil Outlook' figures? (I can fish out my dissertation later on in the day for the proper referencing.) I'm currently a student at the top university for Petroleum Geology & Geology in Europe, so I made use of what I could for this. The main result that I found was of course that is was 'unconventional's that sank the oil price down from around $120 last year. However the reliance on "fracking", tar sand extraction and so on would more or less be impossible at this day and age. The market and current methods of extraction are not advanced enough for it to be at all efficient, currently around $80 per barrel would be required to make "fracking", horizontal drilling and tar sand extraction beneficial for most of the US. Although as you've seen with the introduction of all these non-conventional practices the price has spiralled downwards to what is now $28.44 per barrel.<br /><br />The main thing that I don't like is quite a lot of press coverage is going on about how "Fracking will eliminate the reliance on foreign oil." well... of course it can't.. what so ever. The product of "fracking" isn't in fact anywhere near crude, it is liquid petroleum. This liquid petroleum as I'm sure you know can't go through fractional distillation and can only be used for certain things, most of which are an industrial alternative for brown coal. You could modify a car to run on it with great effort, however it is just not practical in the slightest. <br /><br />The current state of the oil market is actually quite humorous, with all the non-conventional advancement happening in primarily America and Canada there was of course a surplus of oil on the market. Of course this led to America wanting Saudi/Kuwait (Let's be honest here, there is only really two main countries in OPEC that speak for the rest) to drop production so that they both benefit off the high prices... At a conference in December 2014 OPEC announced that it would be keeping oil extraction quota's as they were (which is basically just getting it out as fast as any of the nation's can.), and this actually all led to the creation of the economic war you can see today on the oil market. OPEC is driving the price down (There is a debate as to whether this is on purpose or not.) so that many non-conventional industries cannot profit off the energy industry what-so-ever, with the money most of OPEC has in reserve (An exception for Iran & Venezuela) it could keep this going for far longer than the 'non-conventional's ever will be able to.<br /><br /><br />Note. Once again I've got to run, however should be back in a couple of hours to Correct/Reference the above text.<br /><br />Edit: <br />The graph you provided takes into account the US liquid petroleum gas (LPG) figures which is why I believe our results are so different, LPG is useful however can never become as useful as crude sadly. <br /><br />As for the references:- <br /><br />OPEC's little biased explanation of the situation with oil prices - <br />El-Badri, H. A. (2015, March 8 ). Speech by OPEC Secretary General to the 19th Middle East Oil & Gas Conference. Manama, Kingdom of Bahrain: OPEC.<br /><br />As for the statistics - <br />OPEC. (2014). Annual Statistical Bulletin. Vienna, Austria: OPEC.<br /><br />OPEC. (2005, 6 16). OPEC Basket Price. Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emrites, Venezuala.<br /><br />OPEC. (2015, 4 16). Monthly Oil Market Report.<br /><br />As for the argument + additional statistics, it's somewhat a mixture of these:-<br />Colgan, T. J. (2014, 10 16). 40 years after the oil crisis: Could it happen again? Retrieved 3 10, 2015, from Washington Post: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2013/10/16/40-years-after-the-oil-crisis-could-it-happen-again/" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2013/10/16/40-years-after-the-oil-crisis-could-it-happen-again/</a><br /><br />Plumer, B. (2015, 1 23). Why oil prices keep falling — and throwing the world into turmoil. Retrieved 3 11, 2015, from VOX: <a href="http://www.vox.com/2014/12/16/7401705/oil-prices-falling" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.vox.com/2014/12/16/7401705/oil-prices-falling</a><br /><br />Any additional information has been picked up off professors, project managers and my own knowledge.<br /><br />... I'll stop talking about oil now... 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									<div class="smalltext">« <strong>Reply #13 on:</strong> February 17, 2016, 07:10:09 PM »</div>
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								<div class="inner" id="msg_41319"><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="http://www.blocgame.com/forums/index.php?topic=3762.msg41310#msg41310">Quote from: Hunter on February 17, 2016, 05:11:43 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well yes, as Russia's GDP is 95% oil-based (check the previous references), although this could just be collateral in my opinion. The 'cap' in the article you posted has been brought up time and time again if you look at OPEC's previous conferences, they've been creating them for decades (They can be found on the OPEC website). However, I believe it was the author of the first article I posted has also inspected and documented OPEC's production, there are constant breaches in quotas or caps set by OPEC itself. It was last year Iran needed $110 per barrel to sort out it's hellish economic situation, they are hardly going to suddenly abide by the quotas now when at this point the extraction has suddenly become so crucial for them. <br /><br />Additionally, the second article looks into whether OPEC has much geopolitical power at all in the modern age. With their futile attempts to scrape together whatever threatening presence was leftover after the 60's, I mean it's clear oil embargoes are a thing of the past. It concludes (not that I fully agree with this) that the majority of OPEC's power lies in the speculators as opposed to this "Cartel".<br /><br />Both of these articles seem somewhat controversial to the one that you posted but hey, there are a few thousand views on what is going on right now, any one of us could be right. Currently it's easy to go around finding results that could support any sort of theory, however many results, however many pieces of correlating data, it seems it's still such a controversial issue that only the future can accurately display what is really going on behind closed doors.<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br />The Cold War never ended.</div>
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